Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

01/30/2008 08:00 AM Senate SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SCR 15 AMEND UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSCR 15(SED) Out of Committee
*+ SB 240 EDUCATION FUNDING TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 240 Out of Committee
        SCR 15-AMEND UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
8:40:51 AM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR STEVENS announced the consideration of SCR 15.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TIM LAMKIN,  staff, Senator Stevens,  sponsor of SCR 15  said the                                                               
most immediate recommendation of  the Joint Legislative Education                                                               
Funding Task  Force (JLEFT)  was to  create a  standing education                                                               
committee.  Referring to  a spread  sheet  of standing  education                                                               
committees among  state legislatures, he said  he discovered that                                                               
there are  only three  states in  the country  that don't  have a                                                               
stand-alone  education committee  in  at least  one  body of  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:42:55 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS  said he thought  the state should have  a standing                                                               
committee. He said the biggest  objection has been finding a time                                                               
to  meet and  members, but  pointed out  that there  has been  no                                                               
difficulty in filling the special committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  he didn't think having  a standing education                                                               
committee  was  a  good  idea.   He  said  he  speaks  with  some                                                               
experience having  chaired the  HES committee  for six  years. He                                                               
said he  never thought it  was over-worked  and, in the  world of                                                               
90-day  sessions,  it's  going  to   be  a  lot  easier  to  stop                                                               
legislation. A  standing committee would give  a senate president                                                               
opportunity to  make it difficult  for legislation he or  she may                                                               
not agree  with. He also  believed it  would be difficult  to man                                                               
the  committee and  noted that  Alaska  has one  of the  smallest                                                               
senates in the US.  He suggested that if it is  passed, it have a                                                               
mandatory sunset clause that can be revisited.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  pointed  out  that  in the  past  few  years  the                                                               
university  only reports  to the  Finance Committee.  He said  he                                                               
thought the  legislature should  look at  what the  university is                                                               
doing, not  just what  it is spending,  another reason,  he said,                                                               
for a standing committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:46:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DAVIS  said she  has wanted to  see a  standing education                                                               
committee since  she first  joined the  legislature in  1991. She                                                               
said HES  has a lot  of responsibility  for one person  to chair.                                                               
She said she has no problem with a sunset clause.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:48:58 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR OLSON asked if educators will be presenting testimony.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Director,  School  Finance,  Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Education and Early  Development, said the reason  the task force                                                               
recommended  the  standing  committee is  because  it  recognized                                                               
other issues that needed to  be addressed, issues considered this                                                               
summer on  which the task  force could not reach  consensus. Much                                                               
more research and  committee meetings will be required  to get an                                                               
understanding  of those  issues. That  includes charter  schools,                                                               
correspondence and  home schooling,  special needs  block grants,                                                               
vocational technology programs, required  local effort, the Moore                                                               
Vs  Alaska  case,  innovative  and  best  practices  grants,  and                                                               
voluntary pre-K  programs. The administration is  supportive of a                                                               
standing committee and the concept of a five-year review.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS said  he would  add university  oversight to  that                                                               
list.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:51:13 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHN ALCANTRA,  Director, Government Relations,  NEA-Alaska, said                                                               
this past weekend  the members passed a resolution  in support of                                                               
this  legislation.  With  the  new  90-day  session,  a  standing                                                               
committee  on  education  will  allow  five  senators  and  seven                                                               
representatives to focus  on the issues that Mr.  Jeans spoke of,                                                               
and  it will  give everything  longer hearings.  As mentioned  by                                                               
other senators,  there was no  problem filling the five  spots on                                                               
this special committee. This is important, he concluded.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:53:00 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  moved to  report  SCR  15 from  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  proposed preparing  a committee substitute  to be                                                               
heard on Friday that would include the sunset amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  said he wanted  this to  move as soon  as possible                                                               
and was concerned about having a quorum on Friday.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:56:35 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  said with  90-day  sessions,  he was  concerned                                                               
about creating more committees for people to participate in.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said that if a  majority member asks for a bill to                                                               
be assigned  to their committee,  he can't imagine that  it would                                                               
be refused.  He believed  that a new  committee would  present an                                                               
opportunity  for taking  advantage of  the ability  to hold  up a                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  said that could  happen in a special  committee as                                                               
easily as  in a standing committee.  If you want something  to be                                                               
killed it can be done the way things are now.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS said  he's seen this happen mostly on  the floor if                                                               
someone is  chairing a committee  and they realize that  the bill                                                               
has not  been assigned to  them, they take  an 'at ease'  and ask                                                               
the President to add their committee to the referrals.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS agreed that that was  what she does as chair of the                                                               
HES Committee when bills with an education component.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS withdrew his motion [to move SCR 15].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:01:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR OLSON said that the  Department of Health, Education, and                                                               
Social  Services  has such  big  budgets  and broad  issues  that                                                               
having a  standing education  committee allows  people to  have a                                                               
single committee  they can go to  and allows the chair  of HES to                                                               
focus  more on  health and  social services.  He said  because of                                                               
that he wanted to  move the bill as soon as  possible. He said if                                                               
it moves today, it needs to have Senator Wilken's amendment.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON moved  to bring SCR 15 before  the committee again.                                                               
There were no objections.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:03:51 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILKEN moved  conceptual Amendment 1 calling  for a five-                                                               
year mandatory sunset.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  cautioned that if  this amendment is  adopted, the                                                               
resolution  will have  to go  back to  the House  for concurrence                                                               
because this bill was already passed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked for a  roll call vote on conceptual Amendment                                                               
1. Senators Wilken,  Huggins, Olson and Davis  voted yea; Senator                                                               
Stevens voted nay; and conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS called  for a roll call vote to  move CSSCR 15(SED)                                                               
from  the committee.  Senator Davis,  Olson,  Wilken and  Stevens                                                               
voted yea;  Senator Huggins voted  nay. Therefore,  CSSCR 15(SED)                                                               
moved from committee.                                                                                                           

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